CMPSC 209
Jianwen Su
2.0
30 reviews

30
2.0
CMPSC174A . 10 Months Ago

Pretty good class overall. There are only 5 homework assignments and you have at least a week to do each one. Textbook + lectures explain everything you need for assignments. Exams are as easy or easier than homework. Partner project at the end of the quarter, start early if you can because it does take time. Piazza will be your best friend

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CMPSC174A . 10 Months Ago

I was worried about this class based on Prof. Su's rating here on RMP but I don't know why it's so low. His class isn't the most organized or clear but him and the TAs like Momin Haider were very responsive and accessible outside of class. The exams are straightforward and so were the assignments. Decent class overall.

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CMPSC174A . 1 Year, 9 Months Ago

I was worried about taking this class, but I'm happy to say it's improved a lot since the last time it was taught. Homeworks were kind of difficult but they're only worth 2% each. Late days are generous. Exams were straightforward and a lot easier than the homework. Project was not too bad, but make sure to start early on it as it is a bit tedious.

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CS174A . 4 Years Ago

DO NOT TAKE! 2/5 of the material is relevant, the rest is unnecessarily complicated and not important to understanding SQL databases. HWs are difficult and each only account for 2% of your grade. Exams are not graded fairly. Project is incredibly unclear, very time consuming, and graded VERY unfairly. Lectures are boring and unnecessary.

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CS174A . 4 Years Ago

Literally no one goes to class because his lectures are so useless. The project was so vague and took weeks to complete and I ended up having 3000 lines of code that looked exactly the same. The project was due the last day of dead week so good luck studying for anything else since it takes forever. The TAs are the ones carrying this class.

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CMPSC174A . 4 Years Ago

1. Lectures are useless, he goes off on random tangents about his research and you learn nothing. 2. HWs take 3/4 weeks to be graded, so there is no learning feedback at all 3. Midterm solutions and hw solutions are posted the day before the final?! Crazy. 4. HUGE, redudant, busy-work project with terrible instructions. 5. A lot of hw. 6. Terrible

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CMPSC174A . 4 Years Ago

This professor gives an insane amount of homework and the project is useless and unnecessarily long and tedious. Sure you can work for half of your whole time in a quarter and get a fine grade since things are actually not that hard but I really don' think it's worth it since you won't learn as much as you can if you put this effort into others.

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CS174A . 5 Years Ago

Maybe it's my fault because I had taken this professor before and said never again but he is the only one who teaches databases so here I am again. His lectures are taken directly from the book and he just RAMBLES to himself about unrelated things during lecture and even if you try to pay attention his train of thought is impossible to follow.

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CS40 . 6 Years Ago

He spends the first 30 minutes of every lecture talking about unrelated things but you have to go because of pop quizzes. He is always emphasizing proofs and how we should be good at them without ever doing a proof in class. He expects you to attend workshops where you are randomly given a problem to present from homework that isn't due for a week.

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CMPSC174A . 6 Years Ago

"ITS ON SLIDE" "ASK TA" this is the most he would say if you ask him something in his office hours

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CS56 . 7 Years Ago

Lecture is not very important, he uploads lecture slides to piazza and you can just read them and learn the same material; the lecture slides are easy to self study from. His programming assignments have very vague instructions and his answers in piazza don't help very much. It was easy to get a good grade though.

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CMPSC174A . 7 Years Ago

His lectures are very dry and boring, mostly just reads from non-descriptive powerpoint slides. By week 3, only about 10-15 students would show up to lecture. Also, you don't start to code any SQL until at least halfway through the quarter as he focuses on theoretical aspects of database design. He seems like a nice guy though.

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CS174A . 7 Years Ago

I was afraid to take him at since he had such a low rating. Now that I have, I don't think he deserves a such a low rating at all. His lectures are a little dry and he goes on tangents sometimes but as a whole, he's not a bad professor. At the end of the day, you learn a lot. The project is unnecessarily long and tedious. Don't procrastinate on it.

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CS56 . 8 Years Ago

Su has all the best intentions, but he's just not very clear in his teaching. Lectures are very dry and there's little emphasis on what's important or not. Project descriptions are unclear so you need to check Piazza to figure out what's going on. Material isn't very hard so you can get through it, but take Conrad if you want to master the topic.

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CS56 . 8 Years Ago

Lectures were not useful. Homework and test questions were worded vaguely. Project instructions were unclear. Not responsive on Piazza at all. Seemed like a nice guy, but was unfortunately a really bad teacher.

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CS56 . 9 Years Ago

Taking this course with this professor was the worst decision of my life. Luckily I failed and was able to take it with professor Conrad where I learned how to use gitHub. Su literally sits there and reads his PowerPoint word for word every lecture. DO NOT TAKE THIS COURSE WITH THIS PROFESSOR. You have been warned...

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CS56 . 9 Years Ago

Homework and Project deliverables are very unclear. Only to be specified upon being asked on Piazza. Better to choice the other professor.

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CMPSC174A . 11 Years Ago

If you do the homework and pay attention you will do well in the course. The project description was somewhat unclear, but once you are able to decipher what they expect, the actual implementation is rather straightforward. The material was rather enjoyable and useful.

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CS174A . 11 Years Ago

This class is a nightmare. I took it because I thought it would be a medium difficulty CS elective to take with a few other classes. I was very wrong. The material is easy but the quantity is ridiculous. Expect to write hundreds of lines of SQL code that are nearly exactly the same. Also lecture/section are less than useless.

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CMPSC174A . 12 Years Ago

The class is very dry and tedious. Tests are easy as long as you understand the homework. Final project takes a very long time. As with the rest of the class it is not difficult, merely time-consuming, but it's worth most of your grade so finish it. Prof. Su got behind so we had 2 assignments *and* the final project due in the last week of class.

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CS174A . 12 Years Ago

He is a decent teacher, but talks a lot and sometimes goes off tangent. He was always helpful if students asked for help, or went to office hours. The class is difficult, but you will learn a lot. The final project is worth most of the grade so DO NOT procrastinate it!!!

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CMPSC20 . 15 Years Ago

Poor teacher.

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CS20 . 15 Years Ago

this class is BORING!!!!useless lecture...read the book. it will save you. overall a smart cool guy with knowledge but a low understanding of teaching lower division students...it would be best to avoid him

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CMPSC20 . 15 Years Ago

Su has some decent insight into what the field of CS is doing at the present, but his lectures on the subject he teaches are straight out of the book. Literally, his slides are just about carbon copies of pages in the text, and the book teaches it with more clarity and organization. Read the text, class is optional IMO.

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